MINUTES OF THE
ASSEMBLY COMMITTEE ON WAYS AND MEANS
Sixty-seventh Session
April 20, 1993
The Assembly Committee on Ways and Means was called to order by Chairman Morse Arberry, Jr., at 7:39 a.m., on Tuesday, April 20, 1993, in Room 352 of the Legislative Building, Carson City, Nevada. EXHIBIT A is the Meeting Agenda. EXHIBIT B is the Attendance Roster.
COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT:
Mr. Morse Arberry, Jr., Chairman
Mr. Larry L. Spitler, Vice Chairman
Mrs. Vonne Chowning
Mr. Joseph E. Dini, Jr.
Mrs. Jan Evans
Ms. Christina R. Giunchigliani
Mr. Dean A. Heller
Mr. David E. Humke
Mr. John W. Marvel
Mr. Richard Perkins
Mr. Robert E. Price
Ms. Sandra Tiffany
Mrs. Myrna T. Williams
COMMITTEE MEMBERS ABSENT:
None
STAFF MEMBERS PRESENT:
Mark Stevens, Fiscal Analyst
Gary Ghiggeri, Deputy Fiscal Analyst
AB139Makes appropriation to legislative fund for encapsulation of plenum areas in legislative building.
Mr. John Crossley, Legislative Counsel Bureau, explained AB139 would provide $90,000 to make the asbestos safe in the ceiling area above the hallways in the Legislative Building which are utilized for maintenance of heating, air conditioning and communication lines as recommended by the Sierra Nevada Asbestos Consultants.
Mrs. Evans asked what remains for asbestos removal. Mr. Crossley stated asbestos does not need to be removed unless there is major construction or renovation.
Mr. Marvel asked if this request was included in the budget approved by IFC in November 1992. Mr. Crossley replied it is separate from that budget. Mr. Stevens clarified the request is unrelated to the IFC request and is not included in The Executive Budget for LCB.
Chairman Arberry closed the hearing on AB139.
AB140Makes appropriation to legislative fund for cost of equipping and operating legislative office in state office building in Las Vegas.
Mr. Crossley provided a floor plan of the Las Vegas Legislative Counsel Bureau office space, the proposed budget, and a breakdown of furniture costs (see EXHIBIT C). He explained there is 10,000 square feet allocated for meeting rooms, library, video room, staff space, but no legislator's offices are included. The budget is for the last six months of fiscal year 1994-95.
Mrs. Evans asked how many people the committee room would accommodate. Mr. Crossley stated the main committee room is 2,700 square feet, about three times as big as the Ways and Means Committee room, and the two daises have room for 25 people. Mrs. Evans asked if the library will be utilized more for staff and if information access will be available. Mr. Crossley indicated there will be a direct link to NELIS. He commented since this is the first time LCB will have office space in Las Vegas so a majority of conduit will be installed to accommodate whatever future information-access needs arise.
Mrs. Evans asked if an E-mail system will be installed. Mr. Crossley indicated he hopes to include such a system and is currently exploring the options.
Mr. Marvel asked for the cost of renting Cashman Field. Mr. Crossley replied $52.50 per room per day which is half price.
Chairman Arberry closed the hearing on AB140.
AB330Makes appropriation to health division of department of human resources for pilot programs concerning sickle cell anemia.
Chairman Arberry testified on behalf of AB330 and explained the bill was created from the last session because of the lack of knowledge on sickle cell disease (SCD) throughout the country. Mr. Arberry elaborated AB434 of the Sixty-sixth session was initiated because he had a friend who did not know he had the disease until he was an adult. AB330 was introduced back this session because there is an ongoing need to provide information and support for individuals with SCD and their families. AB330 provides an appropriation from the general fund to the health division for $50,000 to continue the pilot program.
Mr. Marvel asked if the School of Medicine was conducting any research on SCD. Mr. Arberry was not aware of any and asked the health division to provide the information. Mr. Marvel inquired what the manifestations of the disease were. Mr. Arberry stated the individual is quite sick continually with fatigue and it is similar to AIDS where the person does not know they are affected until an opportunistic infection or illness arises.
Ms. Giunchigliani commented, through the Division of Health testimonies, there is now screening for SCD and asked if AB330 would continue the screening program. Mr. Arberry indicated it would. Ms. Giunchigliani remarked there is funding through the health division to provide screening and therefore the funding requested in AB330 might be able to be reduced. Mr. Arberry responded the $50,000 would continue to provide for the sickle cell anemia center in Las Vegas established through the pilot program funding in 1991. The center addresses questions, concerns and support for people and families with SCD.
Mrs. Williams emphasized in the Division of Health budget the cost for screening is rolled into the budget, but the funding does not include the educational aspect which AB330 does address.
Mr. Marvel asked Dr. George Kaiser, Medical Director for the Department of Prisons, if prisoners are screened for SCD and how it is treated. Dr. Kaiser replied inmates are screened for the disease if no history of a prior negative exists. Three inmates currently have the disease. He indicated SCD is genetic and uncorrectable at this time, but treatment can be provided for symptoms and opportunistic illnesses. It can shorten lifespan, but a key to screening is to identify carriers who could pass on the disease to their children.
Ms. Vicki Hamilton, Newborn Screening Coordinator representing the Nevada State Health Division, stated support for AB330. She explained SCD affects red blood cells causing abnormal development. SCD is a chronic illness that is painful and debilitating, resulting in damage to internal organs. Individuals with this disease are more susceptible to life threatening infections. Since 1990, all babies born in Nevada are screened for SCD and other hemoglobinopathies (blood diseases).
Ms. Hamilton testified SCD is genetic in origin. In the United States, most cases occur among Blacks (one in every 400-600) and Hispanics of Caribbean ancestry (one in every 1,000 to 1,500). In 1992, there were 2,073 Black babies born in Nevada. Of these, four babies were diagnosed with SCD and 372 exhibited traits. She explained couples who are planning to become parents should know where they are carriers of the sickle cell gene. Genetic counseling will enable prospective parents to make informed decisions about childbearing by providing medically accurate information, clarify misconceptions, clearly differentiate between sickle cell disease and traits, assure the individuals of their right to self determination, and make appropriate referrals.
Ms. Hamilton remarked the 1991 Legislature passed AB434 to provide $20,000 to the State Health Division to fund community-based demonstration programs to provide information and education concerning SCD. As a result of requests for proposals, two projects were funded. She emphasized the Sickle Cell Foundation of Southern Nevada was awarded $12,700 to develop a multimedia public education program, employ a licensed social worker to provide psychosocial services and a part-time coordination of comprehensive care for individuals with SCD. The passage of AB330 will allow for an expansion of community-based services to families in making decisions about the future of their children.
She pointed out the Nevada State Laboratory was awarded $7,300 to purchase equipment and supplies to establish a state-of-the-art diagnostic laboratory to detect and identify SCD. Passage of AB330 will allow testing to continue at no cost to the family. She reiterated the Nevada State Health Division supports AB330, which will provide for the extension of pilot programs concerning children with SCD. Accurate information will help patients and families handle the medical, social, economic and psychological problems which accompany sickle cell anemia.
Ms. Giunchigliani asked if the laboratory screens families and if there is a Northern Nevada office in addition to the Las Vegas center. Ms. Hamilton indicated the laboratory does screen families and two genetic counselors offer counseling to families with members who have SCD or other blood diseases. She replied there are more individuals with SCD in Southern Nevada than Northern Nevada and the numbers do not warrant an office in the northern region. There is availability of services, but no actual office. Ms. Giunchigliani asked which agency was given the grant in Southern Nevada. Ms. Hamilton testified the Sickle Cell Foundation.
Ms. Giunchigliani asked why the Health Division did not request this funding in its budget. Ms. Hamilton indicated she did not know. Ms. Giunchigliani requested Ms. Hamilton find out and recommended this program be included in the budget. Mr. Ghiggeri explained the budget narrative for Maternal Child Health for the Health Division indicates they have rolled the Sickle Cell program into the grant category, but it is difficult to determine if it has actually been done because no actual dollar amounts were cited. Ms. Giunchigliani requested the funding be clarified within the Health budget.
Chairman Arberry closed the hearing on AB330.
AB488Provides for expedited release from prison of terminally ill or physically incapacitated prisoners.
Mr. Mike Nolan, Medical Administrator of the Department of Prisons, testified in support of AB488. He stated the Director may submit a request to the Governor for expedited release if the inmates are not under sentence of death or sentence without parole. The inmates must be certified to be terminally ill and expected to die within 12 months or must be incapacitated to such a degree that they would not pose a threat to society. He explained the remainder of the bill parallels the pardons process. There is an estimated savings of $489,349 in FY94 and savings of $345,952 in FY95. These savings were calculated by reviewing the catastrophic medical expenses for FY92 which for 70 inmates totaled $1,905,983. Of those inmates approximately 70 percent were minimum custody and a 40 percent factor was used to calculate the savings.
Chairman Arberry asked if Mr. Nolan had any handouts on the information he was providing. Mr. Nolan indicated he did not, but he could provide it to the committee.
Ms. Giunchigliani asked if this bill was a result of the AIDS inmate several years ago. Mr. Nolan replied yes and from an asphyxiation case a year ago where it took six months to get the inmate out of the hospital and he is currently in a nursing home. Ms. Giunchigliani indicated she agreed with the humane part primarily, with savings as a secondary issue. She inquired what the rationale was for the twelve months as the cut off time. Dr. Kaiser answered this time frame was determined based on discussions with other states with humane release programs. The primary medical conditions are cancer and AIDS and most individuals are considered terminal if they have an expected death within twelve months. Ms. Giunchigliani asked what will occur for the life without parole prisoners. Dr. Kaiser stated the prison is prepared with a regional medical facility to take care of prisoners who are terminal and not releasable. This facility will include a hospice area.
Ms. Tiffany suggested there will just be a shifting of costs for housing and medical costs in the public sector. She explained when someone is released from prison they do not necessarily have housing or insurance. Dr. Kaiser stated Medicaid costs are split between the state and federal government and many prisoners move to other states. He emphasized AB488 does address providing a release plan to assure medical and other issues are addressed appropriately.
Ms. Tiffany wondered if this legislation would impact the Medicaid program. Mr. Thorne, Budget Division, stated discussions with Myla Florence and the Medicaid staff indicate if the numbers develop as projected by the Department of Prisons, the impact on Medicaid is expected to be insignificant. He elaborated if a large amount of cancer or AIDS inmates were released under these provisions at one time there could be a problem and Medicaid and the Welfare Division would like to have verbiage included in the bill to allow them to come to IFC. He emphasized this type of situation is expected to be unusual. Ms. Tiffany remarked the end of a terminal disease is the most expensive part.
Mr. Humke pointed out on page one of AB488, lines 13-14 state "does not pose a threat to society" and asked if "threat" was interpreted to mean "not to re-offend." Mr. Nolan replied yes. Mr. Humke asked about the possibility of an inmate with AIDS being humanely released and then purposely infecting someone and would this be considered before release was approved. Dr. Kaiser agreed this could occur and no absolute guarantee could be given that it would not occur. He explained any infectious individual is most contagious at the end of their disease, but cancer victims are not contagious unless they have an opportunistic infection. He emphasized the inmates behavior in prison, their mental status and psychological profile are analyzed prior to recommendation to the director for release.
Mr. Humke asked if the policy is to conduct a review on each prisoner in regard to medical and social history. Dr. Kaiser explained there are two review levels of the expedited pardons process. Dr. Kaiser stressed he and Mr. Bates evaluate each case with the director. He pointed out Mr. Angelone is vigilant about protecting society and this is the primary goal. Final approval is at the governor or pardons board level.
Chairman Arberry asked if there is a program for inmates over the age of 65 who no longer pose a threat to society. Dr. Kaiser replied AB488 is the compassionate release bill. He stated another program has been initiated for older prisoner release as a parallel to AB488. Aged inmates are being addressed for release because of their lower rate of recidivism, but a higher rate of medical expense. He stated the program has been initiated and the Prisons' social worker, Mr. Rogers, is working with the University of Nevada at Reno and Las Vegas to target individuals over the age of 55 for such release plans. These individuals would then be tracked for future release plans for other inmates.
Chairman Arberry commented the other side, effects on local, state and government care costs, also needs to be addressed. Dr. Kaiser reiterated there would be some impact, but not a major amount.
Mr. Perkins inquired if released prisoners have families with insurance to cover medical costs. Dr. Kaiser replied they did not have specific numbers, but, anecdotally, he had heard of individuals who have insurance and have used the state medical benefits before their own. He emphasized the aged inmates are eligible for Medicare and other inmates are eligible to go to the Veterans Administration. He pointed out, at this time, the VA will not accept prisoners with guards.
Mr. Perkins asked, if the state must still carry the burden, would it be cheaper in or out of the institution. Dr. Kaiser replied it would cost less outside the institution. He pointed out the regional medical facility would not be an accredited institution, therefore care costs would be less than at a private ICU facility. The regional facility would be able to care for individuals who would be on the general floor of a hospital. Staffing abilities would determine what type of sick prisoners could be housed. He indicated the state carries 100 percent of medical costs plus housing for institutionalized prisoners. Dr. Kaiser reiterated the emphasis is on the humanitarian release, not savings.
Mrs. Williams asked for an analysis of other state's experiences, if other states have sent similar inmates back to Nevada and about the potential cost shift. Dr. Kaiser replied he was unaware of any inmates returned to Nevada as free individuals. He did know of one or two individuals who have been returned to Nevada prisons at Nevada's request because medical costs could be better contained by this state. He stated he would provide case scenarios for the committee.
Ms. April Townley, Deputy Administrator of Nevada Medicaid, stated there will be an impact on Medicaid as a result of AB488, but the exact impact is unknown at this time. Based on the definition proposed, the individuals would be eligible for Medicaid services depending on financial circumstances of the family. She stated the division requests that legislative intent be established to permit the agency to approach the IFC if extraordinary expenses occur as a result of compassionate releases.
Ms. Laurel Stadler, Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD) Lyon County Chapter, opposed AB488. She pointed out individuals could be in a terminal state and still able to commit a violent crime. If ambulatory they could commit many serious crimes, not the least of which is drunk driving and, with nothing to lose, they would not care about the consequences. She encouraged a face-to-face hearing be required prior to pardon, as is currently the public policy.
Ms. Stadler, in regard to the compassionate portion to the offender, pointed out the victims do not have the opportunity to choose where they die or are victimized. They were not given that "humane consideration" Dr. Kaiser is talking about giving to the offenders. She requested the committee give this idea some consideration also. She reiterated victims are victimized at random and at will by the offenders. Regarding the fiscal impact, Ms. Stadler pointed out the medical costs will be picked up by other state agencies and this would be a realistic impact on the safety of the public which is not being considered.
Ms. Stadler stated on page two, lines 12 and 13 do not provide a time limit for the victim to respond after notification and, with the 15-30 day window for the board to vote, there is note clarity on when the victim should respond. She emphasized releasing the offender where the victim can see him/her in his everyday life, especially in small communities, revictimizes the victim. She cited a case where an offender was released as incapacitated, yet the victim saw the person out walking in a grocery store in Washoe County. She stressed this should not be considered an incapacitated individual.
Ms. Stadler submitted letters from Judy Jacoboni and a Washoe County victim (see EXHIBIT D).
Mr. Ghiggeri addressed the fiscal impact of AB488. He stated the prison medical budget is recommended by the Governor for about an $800,000 to $1 million reduction over the biennium based on approval of AB488. He indicated, if this legislation is not approved, the money committees would need to add the funds back into the budget to balance it.
Mr. Dini commented he had been involved in one of these issues recently and it is indeed a very serious and sensitive issue for the victims' families. The incident involved the murder and burning of a 30-year-old man. The inmate was dying from cancer and as a result of attempts to get the offender released, there was a near civil war in Yerington. This type of release is very serious for small communities.
Mr. Humke inquired if language could be added in regard to reoffending and the area an offender could return to. If it is a small community, this should be factored into the release plan.
Mr. Price commented on page two, sections 3 and 4 of AB488 regarding the notice to the victim. He stated the bill notes if a response is received prior to a meeting or "poll." He emphasized a poll would be a violation of the open meeting law. He stated both sections are a built-in change to the open meeting law which essentially states the agency would not have to give any notice to anyone and they could take action by poll without a public meeting. Mr. Price pointed out the bill states the actions of the poll do not need to be ratified by a future meeting. He maintained, theoretically, even though the district attorney and area judge would need to be notified, everything could be done by phone in a matter of minutes without any due process involving the victim or the public. He reiterated this is a severe change from public policy and requested Mr. Lorne Malkiewich, Legislative Counsel, investigate the intent of these sections of AB488.
Chairman Arberry closed the hearing on AB488.
AB110Creates committee to study designation of safe areas for transporters of hazardous materials.
Speaker Dini stated this was part of the study from the last interim on hazardous materials.
Mr. Ray Blehm, State Fire Marshal, commented this bill does not direct his agency to do anything nor affect them in any way. He could address the whys and wherefores in regard to the need. He explained the bill addresses an interstate trucking issue. At the federal level over the last four-five years there are requirements for trucks carrying hazardous materials, such as A-level explosives, to be parked in safe havens. Those areas have standards developed by the federal government, but most designated "safe havens" do not meet those standards. This bill requests the areas be studied to assure compliance and there is a place for these trucks to stop especially along the long distance corridor of I-80.
Chairman Arberry asked what the fiscal impact would be. Mr. Blehm pointed out he had not been included in preparing the BDR. Mr. Dini stated an appropriation of $75,000 was in the original bill, but the rewrite took it out and a fiscal note would be needed. He stated the Assembly Committee on Natural Resources had a subcommittee which worked on all ten bills related to the hazardous materials issue.
Ms. Giunchigliani pointed out from original to first reprint quite often the summary and language do not get changed even though the appropriation is taken out and she asked for a fiscal note to be attached.
Chairman Arberry closed the hearing on AB110.
AB112Requires state fire marshal to study levels of training concerning hazardous materials that firemen in rural areas have received and propose alternative methods of additional training.
Mr. Blehm stated both AB112 and AB113 are products of the interim study committee on hazardous materials formed as a result of ACR79 of the Sixty-sixth session. He explained AB112 directs the fire marshal to study the level of training and compile a database to assure an adequate level of training and certification for all firemen and agencies, approximately 10,000 responders, who will be involved with hazardous materials responses. AB113 addresses the alternative of a mobile training unit to reach all rural staff for training purposes. The costs will be approximately $69,555 which will be available in the reserve category in the Hazardous Materials Training Center budget. Mr. Blehm suggested these funds be utilized to prevent impacting the general or highway fund.
Ms. Tiffany inquired as to the feasibility of sharing information with the Highway Patrol and utilizing the database existing in that agency. Mr. Blehm replied the fire marshal system addresses training levels and certification rather than raw personnel data. Ms. Tiffany recommended the fire marshal's component be added to the existing database and asked for a cost breakdown on adding the component and having it downloadable statewide.
Speaker Dini stated the funding could be taken from the reserve category. Mr. Blehm concurred it could and the Hazardous Materials Training Center budget is funded from fees on hazardous materials permits and the Beatty dumpsite.
Mr. Marty Bibb, representing the Nevada State Firemen's Association, stated there are approximately 150 small volunteer fire departments in the state and about 1,000 volunteers. He indicated support for the training and emphasized the volunteers need the additional knowledge to provide adequate and safe services both for the public and the firemen.
Chairman Arberry closed the hearing on AB112.
AB113Requires state fire marshal to establish mobile training team to train volunteer firemen to respond to incidents involving hazardous materials.
Mr. Blehm explained AB113 comes from the interim study committee formed as a result of ACR79 of the Sixty-sixth session. This legislation would provide two services. One would set up a series of training goals to reach a level of hazardous material response awareness and the other would provide a mobile unit to train responders in outlying areas. He emphasized a training level of 100 percent is essentially unattainable due to turnover, but the agency's goal is to have 75 percent of responders trained statewide. He remarked, through surveying, the agency is close to attaining the 75 percent level currently. He pointed out because the majority of responders are volunteers and the highest likelihood of a hazardous materials incident is in outlying areas, the mobile training unit is optimal. This will minimize time away from the volunteers' paid jobs and maximize meeting awareness and training goals.
Mr. Blehm stated the budget for staff travel can be adjusted down to $6,000 with salary for the training officer to approximately $52,000. The operating costs to print the manuals and training equipment requests would remain the same. This adjustment down is a result of scaling back by one training team from the original estimate. The amended language is not as rigid in regard to mandatory training and in reviewing the current level of training, the agency believes less funding will be necessary. Mr. Blehm indicated the appropriation request for AB113 would be approximately $106,000 for FY94 and $97,000 for FY95 or $328,000 for the biennium. He reiterated there are adequate funds available in the reserve account of the Hazardous Materials Training Center budget. He said it is the agency's suggestion to reallocate the reserve into the operating categories of this budget and this would carry out the legislative intent and goals envisioned by AB113.
Chairman Arberry requested Mr. Blehm submit the adjusted cost breakdown for the fiscal staff.
Ms. Tiffany asked for clarification on the statement "to develop a useful fire department management system." Mr. Blehm replied essentially it addresses the long-range goal to provide a technical advisory committee to evaluate the types of fire department management software which are available and can be used by medium and large fire departments. He explained the purpose is to utilize software to manage the tracking of records on equipment testing, maintenance and training. The reporting of these issues is mandatory due to liability factors, and providing a turn-key system as a component of the system proposed in AB112 to local fire departments would maximize their management time. The system could also be utilized for budgetary and inventory purposes.
Ms. Tiffany expressed her concern about a lack of a long-term plan for the computer system and stated she believed the existing proposal was scattered. She was uncomfortable with locking into a plan which was not organized.
Speaker Dini concurred this is extremely important for fire volunteers. He pointed out he had served 13 years as a volunteer fireman and noted the biggest problem was lack of training. Current state standards require fire fighters to train on a weekly basis for which they do not get paid. He mentioned most departments employ one paid fireman. He explained the first response personnel need to be trained for their own safety and to assure public safety.
Mr. Dini acknowledged if there is a hazardous spill, it would most likely occur between Fallon and Ely or between Winnemucca and Elko or between Tonopah and Las Vegas where the first responders are usually outside the 30-mile urban limit. He explained Reno and Las Vegas city council policy prevents their city first response teams from going farther than 30-miles outside the city limits. There have been discussions between Carson City, Douglas and Lyon Counties about forming a first response unit, but it is in an infancy stage. He reiterated the mobile training unit is the optimal avenue to getting adequate and reliable training out to the rural responders. He emphasized the training is the primary and most important purpose of AB113 and then equipment can be obtained to support the training.
Mr. Marvel concurred with Speaker Dini and explained in his district he has two railroads plus I-80. He emphasized hazardous materials accidents are a major concern for the city councils and county commissioners. He reiterated the training is critical to the rural counties.
Mr. Blehm clarified the computer software issue was not meant to be two separate components. He stated it was addressed in both AB112 and AB113 because the agency was not sure which legislation would be moved forward.
Ms. Giunchigliani pointed out AB114, which has not yet been posted, addresses training for Highway Patrol officers while this bill addresses training for fire department personnel. She asked if the Highway Patrol unit could be utilized for the fire department training and if such a collaboration had been investigated. Mr. Blehm stated the bill has been adjusted and addresses the Department of Motor Vehicles and Public Safety to develop a police training component to the hazardous materials issue. He emphasized the Fire Marshal's office has been working closely with the agency to develop a cooperative training program. He noted many of the training programs are POST certified, specifically the hazardous materials in arson investigations.
Mr. Blehm testified the way the interim committee addressed hazardous materials training, the POST and Fire Marshal certification areas have been separated. He pointed out the legislation mandates training first responders, not just fire fighters. Ms. Giunchigliani asked why another unit should be formed if a unit already exists.
Mr. Perkins clarified the reason most of the training is provided is to fulfill a federal mandate. He commented AB113 moves from awareness to actual operations-level training. Mr. Blehm testified this was correct. Mr. Perkins inquired if this would add to the fiscal impact of the bill. Mr. Blehm clarified the awareness portion is effective October 1993, and in April 1995 the bill becomes amended to change to an operations level. This is a two-stage bill.
Mr. Perkins explained, having been through operations-level hazardous materials, the training is very similar if not exactly the same for the police service and/or the fire service. He stated there is identification, containment and similar issues to deal with. He asked if there was a rationale for having the training in POST or the Department of Motor Vehicles and Public Safety and in the State Fire Marshal's area rather than a full consolidation of training into one office. Mr. Blehm replied the current status is to provide training from one office and agreed it makes sense to have training consolidated because all the training is essentially the same. Mr. Perkins reiterated rather than having two bills which address training in two different areas, they could be merged into one function.
Mr. Marty Bibb, representing the Nevada State Firemen's Association, testified the local training aspect is very critical. He explained most volunteers have full-time day jobs and basically, to keep turnover down and the professional level of training up, on-site training is essential. This would provide the optimum opportunity to reach the training and operations level goals.
Chairman Arberry closed the hearing on AB113.
Chairman Arberry requested a subcommittee be formed to work on all ten hazardous materials bills. The subcommittee will be chaired by Mr. Perkins with Speaker Dini and Mr. Humke as members.
Chairman Arberry requested a committee introduction of BDR R-1967. Mr. Dini explained the Lt. Governor has requested the committee introduce this to establish a limit on the percentage of dollars which can be taken away from the Tourism fund.
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MRS. EVANS MOVED FOR A COMMITTEE INTRODUCTION OF BDR R-1967.
MRS. CHOWNING SECONDED THE MOTION.
THE MOTION CARRIED BY VOICE VOTE. MR. HELLER WAS NOT PRESENT.
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Chairman Arberry requested a committee introduction of BDR 54-1927. He explained it is an administrative bill related to appraisals of real estate requiring the Real Estate Division of the Department of Commerce to retain a portion of the fees paid by the appraisers for payment to the Financial Institution Determination Council and establishing the procedures related thereto.
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MR. PERKINS MOVED FOR A COMMITTEE INTRODUCTION OF BDR 54-1927.
MS. GIUNCHIGLIANI SECONDED THE MOTION.
THE MOTION CARRIED BY VOICE VOTE. MR. HELLER WAS NOT PRESENT.
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Chairman Arberry adjourned the hearing at 9:25 a.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
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Kerin E. Putnam
Committee Secretary
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Assembly Committee on Ways and Means
April 20, 1993
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