MINUTES OF THE
SENATE Committee on Transportation
Seventieth Session
February 11, 1999
The Senate Committee on Transportation was called to order by Chairman William R. O'Donnell, at 1:30 p.m., on Thursday, February 11, 1999, in Room 2149 of the Legislative Building, Carson City, Nevada. Exhibit A is the Agenda. Exhibit B is the Attendance Roster. All exhibits are available and on file at the Research Library of the Legislative Counsel Bureau.
COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT:
Senator William R. O'Donnell, Chairman
Senator Mark Amodei, Vice Chairman
Senator Lawrence E. Jacobsen
Senator Raymond C. Shaffer
Senator Maurice Washington
Senator Valerie Wiener
Senator Terry Care
STAFF MEMBERS PRESENT:
Paul Mouritsen, Committee Policy Analyst
Joan Moseid, Committee Secretary
Mary Soscia, Personal Secretary
OTHERS PRESENT:
Larry Spitler, Lobbyist, Clark County School District
Charles (Steve) Williams, Lobbyist, Washoe County School District
Lucille Lusk, Lobbyist, Nevada Concerned Citizens
Scott L. Thorson, P.E., Chief Traffic Engineer, Traffic Engineering, Nevada Department of Transportation
Fredrick M. Droes, P.E., Chief Safety Engineer, Nevada Department of Transportation
Henry Etchemendy, Lobbyist, Executive Director, Nevada Association of School Boards
Rod Johnson, P.E., Assistant Director, Operations Division, Nevada Department of Transportation
Jenny M. Neill, Special Assistant to the Director, Nevada Department of Transportation
Daryl E. Capurro, Lobbyist, Nevada Motor Transport Association
Chairman O’Donnell opened the meeting and turned it over to Vice Chairman Amodei so that he could give a presentation to the transportation committee on Senate Bill (S.B.) 80 regarding the speed limits for school zones.
SENATE BILL 80: Revises provisions governing speed limits in school zones. (BDR 43-159)
Senator William R. O’Donnell, Clark County Senatorial District No. 5, stated S.B. 80 became a bill because of a similar bill in the Sixty-ninth Session. He emphasized S.B. 80 allows each principal of the schools in Las Vegas to turn off flashing signals during the middle of the day while students are inside the school, allowing cars to proceed through the thoroughfares at the posted speed limit.
Senator O’Donnell expressed concerns about schools located on a corner that have flashing signals on one major arterial and only signs posted on the other. He pointed out an example in Las Vegas; on Jones Boulevard the school principal can turn off the flashing signals and allow the traffic to flow evenly at 45 mph through the school zone while the students are inside the school. However, on Desert Inn Road another major arterial of the same width there are signs posted, so throughout the entire day a driver has to slow down to 15 mph going by the same school.
Senator O’Donnell explained S.B. 80 will allow the school’s principal to set the time for school zones, so a driver can drive through a school zone without getting a traffic ticket. He recited the time on the current posted signs, from 8:20 a.m. to 2:30 p.m., which means a driver has to drive 15 mph whether or not students are present. He suggested that the signs should read from 8:20 a.m. to 9:20 a.m., and then from 1:30 p.m. to 2:30 p.m., when students are getting out of school; thereby alleviating the traffic congestion that occurs throughout the school zones.
Senator O’Donnell said Las Vegas has a very elaborate computerized and automated control system. He indicated when a school zone is on a major arterial, it slows down traffic and does not allow the computer to synchronize the flow of traffic. Senator O’Donnell then asked the transportation committee for questions.
Senator Wiener drew attention to the language on page 2, line 17; "The principal of each school district", and asked for clarification of each school’s sphere of influence.
Senator O’Donnell agreed with Senator Wiener and other constituents; then asked for suggestions to amend the language on page 2, line 17.
Senator Washington questioned Senator Wiener whether the committee would make a change to page 2, line 17, so that it becomes plural and reads: "The principals of each school district," since there is only one district. He asked Senator O’Donnell if S.B. 80 pertained to Clark County only. Senator O’Donnell replied, this bill pertains to the entire State of Nevada; and stated he understood that there are some states that have signs reading, "when students are present," and indicated he does not know if the signs are legal or illegal.
Senator Washington responded some schools in Washoe County have signs with speed zones at 15 mph from 8:30 a.m. to 3:30 p.m.
Senator Jacobsen addressed concerns for the protection of children in rural county schools and some schools that have an open-campus policy. He also indicated there are schools located on the main thoroughfares, such as Highway 395, and the school zones do not have flashing signals but two different posted signs. Senator Jacobsen stressed that all highway signs and signs of safety should be universal throughout the State of Nevada. Senator Jacobsen suggested that law enforcement or the Nevada Department of Transportation set the speed limit and time for the school zones, instead of the superintendent or principal of each school.
Senator O’Donnell responded the superintendent would not set the speed limits; they would only set the time in which the speed was enforced. He explained, in the school district the principals turn on and off the switch that is located on the inside of each school for the flashing signals. That is how this language generated, and the school districts can do that.
Senator Jacobsen asked if the transportation committee could make it mandatory that every school district use flashing signals.
Senator O’Donnell answered Senator Jacobsen by referring to the Las Vegas example he gave earlier in the meeting. He remarked it seemed incongruent and could be difficult for the computerized traffic-signal system in Las Vegas. He agreed that there should be latitude that allows every county to post a sign so that a driver can drive through a school zone at the posted speed limit during the night and on Saturday and Sunday. Senator O’Donnell commented that there are other concerned constituents who are in favor of making an amendment.
Vice Chairman Amodei called upon Larry Spitler, Lobbyist, Clark County School District; Charles (Steve) William, Lobbyist, Washoe County School District; and Martha Tittle, Lobbyist, Clark County School District.
Mr. Spitler spoke in support of, and requested one minor important amendment to S.B. 80. He noted the proposed amendment would allow the Clark County School District and not the school principals, to designate the hours. Mr. Spitler indicated Clark County has several hundred schools and, as Chairman O’Donnell mentioned earlier in the meeting, the schools overlap in terms of boundaries. Mr. Spitler added, putting the responsibilities on the principals would open up an enormous number of unsafe conditions for the schools. He reiterated if the committee changed the responsibility to the school district, Clark County would support the bill very favorably. Mr. Spitler stated he appreciated the fact that the committee excluded section 1, subsection 1, paragraph (b), "During the period from a half hour after school is no longer in operation to a half hour before school is next in operation; or"… Mr. Spitler concluded how the recommended change would work effectively.
Mr. Williams spoke in favor S.B. Bill 80 and said Washoe County School District has a similar problem with the idea of each individual principal setting the hours for the school zone. He said Washoe County School District does not have as many schools as Clark County School District and was concerned if the committee would tailor the traffic regulation and make it uniform statewide. He agreed that a single point of contact with the school district, the superintendent or his designee, would be appropriate to set the school zones rather than having 80 individual principals set the school zones. Mr. Williams appreciated the attention given to this bill and suggested the same amendment as Mr. Spitler.
Senator Care asked Mr. Spitler and Ms. Tittle if they were familiar with the situation that Chairman O’Donnell discussed on Jones Boulevard and Desert Inn Road in Las Vegas. Senator Care then questioned how many other situations are there in Clark County School District where there are incongruities of speed and where the schools are located.
Mr. Spitler responded, but could not give an exact number of situations because Las Vegas had grown tremendously and a lot of the schools were sited before the major thoroughfares were designed. He said there are several scenarios in Las Vegas that are exactly what Chairman O’Donnell identified as being problems. Mr. Spitler continued to say where there is one major thoroughfare going one way and a cross street, Clark County School District could give the committee a close number of the problematic areas. He remarked that the scenario is the same on Jones Boulevard because houses were there before and now businesses are also there. He explained as Las Vegas grew, the section line had supported residential growth but it became commercial growth and the schools in these locations became a part of all the changes. Mr. Spitler agreed to get a close count for Senator Care.
Senator Care asked Mr. Spitler if the rationale is justifiable for creating the incongruity in these cases.
Mr. Williams questioned, "Who can say if this situation will not happen again; because no one knows where the growth is going to stop; as schools are sited the school districts do not plan to put future schools in this situation."
Senator Washington stressed he did not foresee a problem with the amendment recommended by Mr. Spitler and Mr. Williams, but was concerned that a potential problem might arise with the city traffic controller. He indicated if the committee arbitrarily lets the superintendent of the school district set the speed or school zones, maybe the city traffic controller would have some different suggestions. Senator Washington pointed out the amendment should include that the school district superintendent will work with local law enforcement and traffic controllers to designate the zones and the hours so that these entities harmonize. Mr. Williams concurred. Senator Washington then added the superintendent of the school district should help amend the language so that it would not get misconstrued.
Senator Jacobsen asked Mr. Spitler if police officers are designated to enforce traffic control in school zones and if it would be possible for the police officers to set the standards.
Mr. Spitler replied, "No." He continued to say the school district would have to study the scope of what Senator Jacobsen proposed because as the police force gets involved in someone else’s jurisdiction the school districts could encounter all kinds of issues. Mr. Spitler concluded the police officers are more highly trained to pursue someone who is speeding as opposed to the people who are trained in school safety. He stated in 1995, the university police powers were expanded for pursuits off the school campus.
Vice Chairman Amodei, asked if there were any more questions on S.B. 80.
Senator Care queried Mr. Spitler pertaining to two or three sessions ago when the Legislature enacted this statue stating, "Who set the speed limits of 15 mph or 25 mph on a street in front of a school; the signs, and the hours posted on the school sign?"
Mr. Spitler pointed out S.B. 80 currently asks the schools to set the times when speed limit or school signs should be activated so the schools can work in terms of the time element in the speed limit statute on page 1, section 1, subsection 1, "A person shall not drive a motor vehicle at a speed in excess of 15 miles per hour in an area designated as a school zone except:" and he said someone would have to present a change to the Legislature. He commented this is why Chairman O’Donnell has brought the school districts in to designate the times.
Lucille Lusk, Lobbyist, Nevada Concerned Citizens, spoke in favor of S.B. 80, and presented a prepared testimony (Exhibit C). She voiced concerns that some school zones serve more than one school and the conflict would be which school principal will set the hours in speed zones; and as a result, this could cause a number of problems for a driver. Ms. Lusk offered two amendment alternatives; the first alternative gives the governing body or the Department of Transportation the power to set the hours for the speed within the school zone, since they are responsible for designating school zones and school-crossing zones and providing school signs. She added that this amendment would not require any complication of coordination with other bodies. Ms. Lusk suggested if the transportation committee decided to designate school personnel, that it be the board of trustees because it would involve a public hearing or the superintendent of the school, and urged that the decisions be made district wide to avoid potential confusion. The second alternative offered minor changes to make the language context plain in this bill.
Vice Chairman Amodei requested Rod Johnson, P.E., Assistant Director, Operations Division, Nevada Department of Transportation; Scott Thorson, P.E., Chief Traffic Engineer, Traffic Engineering, Nevada Department of Transportation; and Fredrick Droes, P.E., Chief Safety Engineer, Nevada Department of Transportation; testify on S.B. 80.
Mr. Thorson testified in favor of, and proposed some changes to S.B. 80. Mr. Thorson called attention to the committee that some local traffic engineers around the State of Nevada and he had combined language on the bill page 2, section 5. He stated the traffic engineers would like to have an amendment that reads:
The governing body of local government and department of transportation shall designate the hours; after conducting an engineering study to determine when the principals are using the school zones. The principals of each school shall notify the governing body of local government or the department of transportation of any changes in the operational hours of the school.
Mr. Thorson then implied the Department of Transportation could set the hours after conducting an engineering study. Mr. Thorson said that some schools are using 45 minutes before school and 15 minutes after school, because of his observation of students going to school and leaving school. The Department of Transportation and local engineering people work very closely with the schools to set hours and make contact when the schools start each year, to confirm the hours posted on school signs. Mr. Thorson asked Chairman O’Donnell if the intentions of this bill were to post the beginning hours on the sign from 7:30 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. and the ending hours from 3:30 p.m. to 4:30 p.m. Chairman O’Donnell answered, "Yes" to Mr. Thorson’s question. Mr. Thorson passed out to the committee a supplemental placard that showed the beginning and ending of posted school hours (Exhibit D), and a supplemental placard that showed the standard highway signs with modifications (Exhibit E).
Senator Washington acknowledged the fact that Bernice Martin Mathews Elementary School, in Washoe County, has flashing lights and a sign posted with hours on it. Senator Washington asked Mr. Thorson, "If NDOT had conducted an engineering study of each school zone, would the fiscal note increase on this bill?"
Mr. Thorson replied, "Yes" to the question. He said the Department of Transportation conducted a quick survey of the schools in Nevada and the estimation for 450 schools would be approximately for the signs; $150,000 granted that some schools have one street or two streets adjacent to the schools, some also have two, four, and six lanes. Mr. Thorson stated NDOT is not sure how many schools are located on the state highways and would like to say this figure includes the making and installation of the signs. He commented the time frame for changing all the signs is unknown at this time.
Chairman O’Donnell referred to Exhibit D and asked about the reduced letters and word size of 50 percent and asked if the letter size would be 50 percent smaller than the exhibit display.
Mr. Thorson responded the size was compressed, and the height did not change because NDOT would like to keep that standard.
Senator Jacobsen asked Mr. Thorson if the Department of Transportation furnished all the school signs. Mr. Thorson answered, "Yes" to state highway signs and stated each local entity supplies their own signs or flashers for their own roads.
Senator Jacobsen asked if NDOT could make signs and charge the local entities; and also set the standards that the signs should all be the same. Mr. Thorson confirmed that southern Nevada has their own sign shops or they could pay a company to make signs, and that NDOT has charged the local entities for making signs at the department’s cost. He pointed out that the state traffic engineer is also the safety engineer, as well; but the locals always meet to set standards that would be acceptable statewide.
Senator Washington stated since NDOT only put signs up on the state highways for school zones and school crossings, the State of Nevada is sending basically a non-funded mandate down to the local level.
Mr. Thorson agreed with Senator Washington and clarified that the life of a sign is 5 to 7 years and could be replaced periodically.
Mr. Thorson concluded NDOT estimated roughly $150,000 for signs for 450 schools in the State of Nevada and figured an average of about six signs have to be changed per school. He also said the NDOT sign shop could make a sign costing anywhere from $25-$30, which averages out to $150-$200 per school. He stated after multiplying, it comes out to be approximately $75,000-$80,000 for signs; and adding labor, it could cost from $100,000-$250,000 total. He concurred; he did not have all the resources at hand to tell how many signs would be actually affected; because some signs would not change, but would keep the flashing lights. He thought this could be an option the schools could afford.
Mr. Droes stated there are some benefits that are tough to get a handle on as far as cost. He stated if you are able to improve the operational characteristics of the roadways there are user costs that can be factored as far as benefits in travel time and wear and tear on vehicles.
Senator Amodei questioned Mr. Thorson what number he could provide if every school site in the State of Nevada needed a sign changed. Senator Amodei reiterated if the school district superintendents were designated to set the hours, would the appropriate local official or NDOT would work closely with them. Mr. Thorson answered; "Yes" and said NDOT does that now. Mr. Thorson continued to say that NDOT would like to keep this role in the hands of the engineers so that they could go out to the schools. He said he would like to come up with a recommendation based on what was observed in the field and the recommendations of the schools.
Senator Amodei asked Mr. Thorson if there was any scope of the funding required to do a study like this as compared with the potential cost of the signs changes. Mr. Thorson replied NDOT would go out and observe the students going to school both during school starting time and the hours after the school starts. Senator Amodei asked Mr. Thorson to describe the existing workload for the present NDOT personnel and possible employment with the State of Nevada. Mr. Thorson responded by saying NDOT has a request in for 55 more positions statewide.
Chairman O’Donnell added a comment after listening to the testimony and reviewing the bill again. He pointed out the language on page 2, line 19, "The hours during which the pupils of a school are in class must not be included in the hours during which the speed limit is in effect in the school zone or school crossing zone." Chairman O’Donnell concurred there may be an overlap time where students are going to school or the school might have students coming to school later; even though the school officially starts at 8:10 a.m., and the school sign now reads 8:30 a.m. A subcommittee was formed to work on amendment language for S.B. 80 with Chairman O’Donnell, Senator Amodei and Senator Wiener. Mr. Thorson mentioned that there are four different school starting times in the State of Nevada as discovered after doing a research study.
Senator Jacobsen asked Mr. Thorson if the definition of school zone covers parochial schools, charter schools, community colleges, and universities. Mr. Thorson explained school zones at 15 mph are designated for the street adjacent to school property, and the school crossing zones at 25 mph are the streets that cross to the school.
Senator Jacobsen queried whether the University of Nevada, Reno, would be considered a school zone or residential zone because there is a main thoroughfare involved; and on one side is the school and on the other side there are living quarters. Mr. Thorson replied the school zone definition covers elementary, middle, and high schools; but he is not familiar with school zones for universities at this time.
Chairman O’Donnell remarked that is the beauty of this particular bill, and pointed out the university on Maryland Parkway in Clark County where students cross the streets all day long. He stated he does not know if the operators of the university, as well as the traffic engineers, shut off the signals at any time during the day since the students are in school or crossing the street all day. Chairman O’Donnell gave a good example of a particular anomaly of Desert Inn Road and Cashman Middle School in Las Vegas. He said the Cashman Middle School has flashing lights and a driver has to travel through the school zone at 15 mph. Less than a quarter of a mile away on Decatur Boulevard, there is a 25 mph school zone, which is a 120 foot major street, where the traffic signals are active all day long, while the one right next to the school is not active. Chairman O’Donnell reiterated this is one of the reasons he submitted this bill.
Henry Etchemendy, Lobbyist, Nevada Association of School Boards, spoke in favor of S.B. 80 and agreed that the language on page 2, line 9 should be modified. He expressed concerns about the high-speed traffic areas in a school zone where a driver has to slow down all day and thinks it is not necessary. Mr. Etchemendy responded; in order to fully accomplish the purpose of this bill it would entail a lot of time and study by the engineers of NDOT, since they volunteered. He called attention to the effective date of October 1, 1999; and questioned if there would be enough time to make all the signs school zones and crossing changes by the effective date.
Senator Care pointed out to the committee that it seems right to have an effective date 9 months prior to school opening in the fall of a school year; otherwise, the responsible party would be conceivably changing signs as of October 1, 1999, and people would not know that a new law has been enforced.
Mr. Etchemendy commented the State of Nevada has some year-round schools other alternative schedules, and so forth; and these schools will not be covered until all the signs are up. This is why the October 1, 1999 date will not be effective.
Senator Jacobsen asked if there were any military personnel present that have a great deal of experience, because he has some questions. Senator Jacobsen asked Mr. Johnson what other kind of zones NDOT acknowledges. Senator Jacobsen referred to the Hawthorne Ammunition Depot and the signs that say, "Military Zone" and asked who determined the speed limits there.
Mr. Johnson answered he is not sure or qualified to answer that question. He believed in maturing traffic areas a traffic study will have to be done, and Mr. Thorson could address this question better.
Senator Jacobsen then asked Ms. Neill if NDOT established any fire-zone, speed-limit signs for the fire departments. Ms. Neill responded she could not answer that question but Mr. Thorson could answer. She believed that it was up to the fire stations.
Mr. Thorson asked Senator Jacobsen to restate his questions. Senator Jacobsen queried whether the fire department and other zones would be considered a privilege zone or restricted zone. Mr. Thorson noted that a fire station has emergency signals and gave an example on Stewart Street, in Carson City, that the fire truck symbols when flashing are activated from inside the fire station and this prepares people to stop when they are flashing. He continued to say, as far as lowering the speed limit NDOT does not put the speed limits on the signs or post a warning sign for a curb or fire station crossing.
Senator Jacobsen noted he is a member of the Douglas County Engine Company located on Highway 395. He mentioned the fire department had petitioned NDOT to add flashing lights, which was not approved because it was a thoroughfare. Senator Jacobsen stressed how the fire department personnel run into the street to stop the traffic and almost get run over by speeding vehicles; and stated he was not sure if there is a warning sign with a fire truck symbol. Mr. Thorson said to his recollection there is a warning sign with a fire truck symbol. Senator Jacobsen added there is one in Jacks Valley. Mr. Thorson remarked there is one fire truck symbol sign in Minden, too. Senator Jacobsen asked Mr. Thorson if there are any other applications or signs to slow down traffic. Mr. Thorson indicated that construction zones sometimes reduce the regulatory speed limits. Senator Jacobsen asked if the State of Nevada could impose the same restrictions in school zones; i.e., "Double Penalty." Mr. Thorson stated this law is in existence now and there are extra or severe fines when caught speeding in a school zone. He concluded he would research that information from the last session.
Senator Jacobsen suggested to Vice Chairman Amodei that the committee could get the highway patrol to give an idea on how many tickets are written in a school zone to show how many people are not paying attention to the conventional signs.
Vice Chairman Amodei turned the hearing over to Chairman O’Donnell and closed the hearing on Senate Bill 80.
Chairman O’Donnell opened the hearing on Senate Bill 81.
SENATE BILL 81: Revises circumstances under which certain fines are increased for violating limitation of weight of motor vehicle. (BDR 43-192)
Daryl E. Capurro, Lobbyist, Nevada Motor Transport Association, testified in favor of S.B. 81, and passed out a map produced by NDOT titled; "Restricted Overweight Travel Routes," dated February 1, 1999 through April 10, 1999 (Exhibit F). He called attention to a bill passed last session to double fines on the highways designated by NDOT as being particularly susceptible to the freeze/thaw cycle during the time frame from February 1 through May 1 of each year. Mr. Capurro emphasized the testimony given with the intent of the bill; and said, unfortunately, during the interim the truck industry supported it along with the Associated General Contractors of America (AGC), and other groups, as being a prudent thing to do. Mr. Capurro said what has occurred is that the Nevada Highway Patrol Division has interpreted language in the bill to mean that the fines will be double on all highways under the jurisdiction of the state during that period of time. He continued by saying, this certainly was not the intent, and believed the Nevada Department of Transportation would testify to the effect that this was certainly not the trucking industry’s understanding of what was being requested.
Mr. Capurro added that he had received calls from many carriers and contractors from the Las Vegas area with concerns about the double-fine penalties. He asserted that virtually there were no crossed (freeze/thaw) cycle highways in Clark County that were being double fined for overweight penalties in that area. He commented the highway patrol indicated there would not be a problem with changing it, and they would continue to double fine until the Legislative Counsel Bureau revises the interpretation of the language. Mr. Capurro pointed out the language on page 2, subsection 5, line 6; and stated the amendment will take place on line 9 where it essentially retains the February 1, but before May 1, date for the freeze/thaw cycle. He pointed out the language on line 9 reads, "on a highway designated by the director of the department of transportation as restricted pursuant to section 2 of this act." He asked to change that to read, "The director shall designate restricted highways which are susceptible to severe damage if traveled upon or after February 1, but before May 1, in violation of a limitation of weight imposed by …" and he included the weight sections under chapter 484 of the Nevada Revised Statues (NRS).
Mr. Capurro indicated that the maps NDOT produced do not go through a regulatory hearing and should not, because it is more in the nature of an emergency action. NDOT has to take time to check roadways and roadbeds to see what the moisture content is and how susceptible those roadbeds might be during a freeze/thaw cycle coming up. He said NDOT’s time frame is very short in getting the map out and this is how they have handled the freeze/thaw cycle for years. Mr. Capurro suggested that page 2, line 17, "The director shall," remove by amendment "by regulation," and change to "The director will designate restricted highways in accordance with that same way the director has done in the past." He noted the Nevada Chapter of AGC is in full support of this proposal, along with Beryln Miller with the Nevada Contractors Association. Mr. Cappurro offered to answer any questions on behalf of S.B. 81.
Senator Wiener drew attention to the language on Exhibit F. She asked the definition of the word "OVERWEIGHT" for a vehicle, or if it is considered a flag word. She asked what the State of Nevada does on the other highways that do not have freeze/thaw issues.
Mr. Capurro remarked as you see in section 1, NRS 484.747 set forth the fine schedule for being overweight on any highway in the State of Nevada during all periods of the year. He continued to say this is a specific situation regarding those highways that are particularly susceptible to that freeze/thaw cycle and the fines are doubled with respect to the fines in section 1.
Senator Wiener replied that she was curious about how the highway patrol applies the rules of those specific highways that have frost and freeze/thaw issues part of the year. She acknowledged that she has seen weight stations on the interstate highways not in use. Senator Wiener implied that she could see what is in the law but questioned how the highway patrol exacts rates that are enforced.
Mr. Capurro responded by saying there are some fixed scales; one is located near Jean, Nevada, and one on Interstate 80. The highway patrol has portable scales and does a great deal of safety and weight enforcement on the interstates both north and south, as well as other primary highways. Mr. Capurro continued, noting that when trucks are being pulled over at the weight-check station, they do far more than just check weight; they also check whether or not the truck drivers have paid their correct amount of fees for licensing.
Senator Jacobsen commented that it seems strange an intrastate trucker is not given a notification ahead of time; like a week’s notice, since Nevada’s weather could change severely in one way or another. He asked Mr. Capurro how the trucker would know. Mr. Capurro said by law this freeze/thaw period extends from February 1 through May 1. He pointed out to the committee the date at the bottom of the map (Exhibit F) was February 1, 1999 and the notices are provided in ample time so that the carriers would not be trapped into a freeze/thaw cycle area. He mentioned Nevada Motor Transport Association helps distribute this information through bulletins that give notices to every registered carrier in the State of Nevada, that shows what areas are freeze/thaw issues at that present time.
Senator Jacobsen asked Mr. Capurro if overweight is a continual problem, because he does not see portable scales anymore. Senator Jacobsen stated he sees truck stops and would like to know if they were for weight limitation only. Mr. Capurro said any spot where a truck will be pulled over into the weight station, portable scales will be used to check weight. He explained there are some sites where the weight can be measured with "weight-in-motion," meaning a truck can pass over without stopping by using the weight-in-motion machinery and can then be subjected to a portable scale reading.
Chairman O’Donnell closed the hearing on S.B. 81 and requested a motion.
SENATOR WASHINGTON MOVED TO AMEND AND DO PASS S.B. 81 WITH AMENDMENT NO. 16.
SENATOR AMODEI SECONDED THE MOTION.
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
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Chairman O’Donnell adjourned the meeting at 2:50 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
Joan Moseid,
Committee Secretary
APPROVED BY:
Senator William R. O'Donnell, Chairman
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